Showing posts with label travelling with children. Show all posts
Showing posts with label travelling with children. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 08, 2010

righto... pictures...

as promised. Although rather later than planned. Life's like that sometimes eh.

Quinn in the creek bed

oldest sister, littlest brother and a lovely beach on the point...

fossil...mmm where to explore next...

side of the road pedestrian


this is what poles are for... right? Jake, Zeke, Quinn

sunset after some rare rain...

another visitor...
plenty of beaches like this... and fishing to be had

camp visitors... very curious. Although no dingoes this time ;)

A selection of pics. There's a LOT more I'd like to put up but they all have faces in so no will do. Station Country staying with my Nanna, and a Bay in a National Park up north... and yep, reusable nappies all the way. All sorts of animals and things to do and see - fishing, bug catching, jumping waves, lighting the copper, learning how to make fire with Pop, making damper with Nanna, colouring, making, baking, exploring, rock and pebble tasting (Quinn), grotty-getting, sand castles, snorkelling, satellite and star gazing, rooster-listening, egg-checking... and a tonne more besides... No crowds, no city. Just the way I like it!

And finally... some long awaited rain for the country up that way, and all that area really... even the roos were having a tough time... so so dry and even the toughest of plans were dead... will some more Nanna's way very soon...

Saturday, January 09, 2010

H Harness - no longer recommended unless for lap only belt...

Well it was with great surprise and I must say, some skepticism (initially) that I came across this information just yesterday while spending time on a Parenting forum. How, I asked, could a (correctly used) H Harness with anti-sub clip, be LESS safe than just a lap sash belt on it's own? Especially when used in conjunction with a booster? How can this be when it was the recommendation until very recently, from pretty much everyone I spoke to? Where did this new information come from and what did it mean?

The answer, as far as I can work out and from what I have read, essentially is that an inbuilt harness (ie one that comes inbuilt into a child restraint) because it is part of the child restraint, spreads the load from impact differently (to an H Harness) and more evenly across the child's entire body... whereas an H Harness is attached directly to the vehicle by the tether strap/anchor point and is more rigid... this means on impact, because the child is held so tight, the load is concentrated on the neck and head, rather than being disbursed more evenly.

so (with weight, age and height in mind for the restraint)
preference (is in rear seat) in order of:
  • reversible car seat with inbuilt harness (use in either position for weight approp)
  • then forward facing (non convertable) car seat with inbuilt harness
  • then full back and sides boosters with lap sash only
  • then adult seat with lapsash
  • half boosters are no longer recommended (no side impact protection), although they are not illegal and
  • H Harness/HHarness with booster with anti sub clip should only be used in cases of lap belt only and where no better seating is available.
For the crash tests with diagrams and charts, full explanations and resources from places like Vic Roads and other Govt Safety Depts, please read the following and then, once you've read all the information, make your decision. It's hard because all we want is the best safety for our children, but have what was not too long ago a recommendation, now being not recommended. Please if you have any feedback or other information, let me know.

NB: Thankyou too to those on EB who first answered my questions and took the time to post links, and where almost all this link information comes from.

Results of study - why the H Harness isn't as safe as we thought
(link currently not working... will repost correct link when I have it)
The results indicate that the simple addition of a harness system to a lap belt, although reducing excursion of the head and torso, may lead to neck forces that are much higher than those seen in the lap/sash belt configuration. There are therefore grounds for concern on the performance of the lap belt/child harness configuration. The comparatively high readings for head and neck forces and accelerations indicate the need for some attention to design. Unlike the configuration in a forward-facing child seat, the shoulder straps of the child harness when used with a lap belt are anchored directly to the vehicle structure. In a child seat, the harness is attached to the seat and the seat attachments are separate. The lap/harness configuration is therefore much stiffer in its reaction to crash forces, and this may be why the dummy neck loads were higher in these tests. This suggestion is supported by outputs for chest accelerations, which were also highest in the lap/harness configuration.

Kidsafe No longer recommend H Harness - also half boosters info

Michael Paine on child safety
  • Avoid using separate child harness with a booster, unless there is only a 2-point seat belt available.
  • For children over 6 who are too large for a booster seat, a 3-point adult seat belt in a rear seat.
  • For children over 6, where no 3-point seat belt is available in the rear seat, a 3-point adult seat belt in a front seat [IF allowed by the new laws]. A passenger airbag will provide extra protection and is not dangerous in Australia (updated URL) - provided the child is restrained by the seat belt and does not lean forward. In any case, adjust the seat as far back as possible but ensure that the sash (upper) portion of the seat belt is against the shoulder and not the neck. Never let a child stand or sit close to the dashboard - airbag or no airbag.
Detailed Study into use of H Harness - Safety and Comparisons to lap-sash belt use

Comprehensive Listing of all child restraint information, explanations, when to change seats and what's safest.

Accessory Child Harness, Safety Concerns and Correct Use

Accessory Child Safety Harnesses - Do the benefits outweigh the risks?

of course, this is just my understanding and the reading I've done. If in doubt consult the relevant authorities/information in your state, do your own research and reach your own conclusion, for your Family.

Thursday, June 25, 2009

When travelling - especially with children...

People often ask for hints and tips on travelling with children and there's usually lots of good ideas given. One thing though that I think is hugely helpful and not often mentioned, is prepping for when you get home... 'huh?' I hear you ask?

Well, AKA FLYlady's CJ for travelling/holiday, you do all your prep for going away - clothes list to pack, food to pack, medicines, tickets/maps etc etc but the 'coming home' bit is left to chance. Prepping for coming home, before you go, is almost a relief when you walk in the door - usually tired, hungry, needing a shower, and with LOTS to unpack/wash/clean from being away.

Imagine then, walking in the door to a tidy (not spotless, I never said spotless LOL) house... a meal waiting in the freezer, or perhaps fresh fruit and bread in a box at the front door... clean towels in the bathroom... clean sheets on the bed (and clean pillowcases for the pillows you took camping), a full set of pyjamas and clothes ready for the kids and clothes for you... a stack of clean nappies including a night nappy... I tell ya, it's BLISS LOL a little forethought yes, and when you're packing and getting ready probably the last thing you want to do but you'll thank yourself later!

I did a page each for one month/one day before we go, packing day, packing list/things to remember, 'walking out the door' (ie turn off computer, batteries off charge etc) and 'when we get back' - ie collect Jemma, reset emails, check bills etc AND the 'for when we get back' - that's where I listed the things to do that would get us a nice 'coming home'. Also, keep the lists for next time, done in pencil (headings in pen if you like) and they're already done and only need minor changes. If you forgot something this time, add it to the list to remember next time.


I know we did this time and last time. Doing a long 4 weeks on the road, coming home at 3am after driving all night and the previous day (taking turns, 2 adults), freezing cold and definately grotty. I had left some money, a house key, and a small list with my cousin (thanks E!) and she picked up f&v and bread for us and it was waiting on the bench/in the fridge when we got home. The most recent was last weekend when we went just for a few nights camping, and Quinn and I came home crook as... it was a relief to walk in the door to almost all those things... especially clean clothes for everyone and fresh towels as we packed up in the rain when we left camp! So that's my 2c... hope it makes your next time away, a joy to come home to...
Happy Camping!
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